tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1378638110435649152024-02-08T02:45:13.840+08:00Revival Centres Prophecies, Predictions & ClaimsWhy I Don't Believehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00023274729498444974noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137863811043564915.post-11579874564916181622011-11-07T17:28:00.007+08:002011-11-08T16:33:32.245+08:00'Voice of Revival' 1984 June/July p04<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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</tbody></table><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">Following on the tradition of the <a href="http://revivalprophecy.blogspot.com/search/label/1953" target="_blank">failed date-setting for 1953</a> (which they made while still part of the National Revival Crusade) the Revival Centres again blatantly predict the return of the Lord on or before September 17th, 2001. The Revivalists arrive at this date for at least two different reasons:<br />
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</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">1. Revivalists and British Israelists subscribe to <i>God's Great Week</i>, a 7000 years theory (see the bottom of the article above). This belief argues Adam was created in 3996 B.C.E. and seeing as, 'a day is as a thousand years', the end of the sixth millennium (around the year 2000) would result in Christ's return.<br />
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</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">2. The markings inside the Pyramid of Cheops, used by many Pyramidologists to set dates, stop at September 17th, 2001. Thomas Foster, Lloyd Longfield and Noel Hollins' former pastor in the NRC, <a href="http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2827122" target="_blank">made mention of a similar date</a>. It seems they got this date from David Davidson's <a href="http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/1687987" target="_blank"><i>The Path to Peace in Our Time: Outlines from the Great Pyramid</i> <i>Prophecy </i>(1942)</a>. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 10pt;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family: "Times New Roman","serif"; font-size: 10pt;"></span></div><div style="text-align: left;">So there is even more evidence the Revival Centres have been involved with setting a date <i>relevant </i>to the return of Jesus Christ. Contrast this with the <a href="http://revivalcentres.org/?qa_faqs=you-speak-of-the-return-of-jesus-christ-have-you-set-a-date-for-this-to-happen" target="_blank">Revival Centres International statement on date-setting</a> in which they claim they have never been party to this practice.<br />
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</div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><div style="text-align: left;">Interestingly, the <a href="http://www.cai.org/" target="_blank">Christian Assemblies Internationa</a>l, a splinter group of the Revival Centres, still had this<a href="http://www.cai.org/bible-studies/what-time-it-now" target="_blank"> article on their website</a> as late as 2011. </div><div style="text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;"><span style="color: black;">Verdict:</span> <b style="color: red;">ANOTHER FAILED DATE!</b></span></span></div>Why I Don't Believehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00023274729498444974noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137863811043564915.post-86195328981907682122010-09-05T19:10:00.003+08:002011-11-07T16:37:32.308+08:00'Voice of Revival' 1962 v04 n07 p04-06<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">It is hard to know the origin of this 3 page article. It may well have been written by a Revivalist, but I suspect it has been 'borrowed' from somewhere else and adapted to suit Revival Centre doctrine. After all, when part of the NRC/CRC, Revivalists were exposed to the books and magazines of other Pentecostal groups and there are so few other articles dealing with Church history in any detail from Revivalists. Whatever the origins, it was later republished as a Revival Centre tract/leaflet and most Revivalists were very familiar with it, even as late as the 1990s.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Evangelical Christian Dean Mischewski addressed some of the claims of the above article. Below are some excerpts of his letter (<a href="http://rc.cultweb.net/">which can be found in its entirety here)</a> to an RCI pastor in New Zealand.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Tertullian</b><br />
Regarding Tertullian and the Montanists, this group is well known as heretics and Tertullian's later writings (from after he joined the sect) are generally considered less valuable in terms of their teaching given that he was writing from a viewpoint out of step with the rest of the early Church. The following information on the Montanists I found online in the <a href="http://www.knight.org/advent/cathen/10521a.htm">Catholic Encyclopedia</a>: </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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<div style="color: black;"><i>It is interesting to take St. Jerome's account, written in 384, of the doctrines of Montanism as he believed them to be in his own time (Ep., xli). He describes them as Sabellians in their idea of the Trinity, as forbidding second marriage, as observing three <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09152a.htm">Lents</a> "as though three Saviours had suffered". Above bishops they have "Cenones" (probably not <i>koinonoi</i>, but a Phrygian word) and patriarchs above these at Pepuza. They close the door of the Church to almost every sin. They say that <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608a.htm">God</a>, not being able to save the world by Moses and the Prophets, took flesh of the Virgin Mary, and in Christ, His Son, preached and died for us. And because He could not accomplish the salvation of the world by this second method, the Holy Spirit descended upon Montanus, Prisca, and Maximilla, giving them the plenitude which St. Paul had not (I Cor., xiii, 9). St. Jerome refuses to believe the story of the blood of a baby; but his account is already exaggerated beyond what the Montanists would have admitted that they held. Origen ("Ep. ad Titum" in "Pamph. Apol.", I fin.) is uncertain whether they are schismatics or heretics. St. Basil is amazed that Dionysius of Alexandria admitted their baptism to be valid (Ep., clxxxii). According to Philastrius (Hær., xlix) they baptized the dead. Sozomen (xviii) tells us that they observed <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05224d.htm">Easter</a> on 6 April or on the following Sunday. Germanus of Constantinople (P.G., XCVIII, 44) says they taught eight heavens and eight degrees of damnation. The <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03712a.htm">Christian</a> emperors from Constantine onwards made laws against them, which were scarcely put into execution in Phrygia (Sozomen, II, xxxii). But gradually they became a small and secret sect. The bones of Montanus were dug up in 861. The numerous Montanist writings (<i>bibloi apeiroi</i>, "Philosophumena", VIII, xix) are all lost. It seems that a certain <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02018a.htm">Asterius Urbanus</a> made a collection of the prophecies (Euseb., V, xvi, 17).</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><i style="color: black;"></i> <span style="color: black;">However Tertullian often has much worthwhile teaching, so his references to tongues may well be bona fide.</span> <br />
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</div><div style="color: black;"><b>John Chrysostom</b><i></i></div><div style="color: black;">For a start this quote says nothing, one way or the other, about tongues in the year A.D. 390, so its inclusion does nothing to prove the point that tongues have been around throughout church history. The article didn't say where the quote came from, but I managed to track it down in the library of early Church writings at Wheaton University's web site. If you read the entire passage, you will see that it actually <b>contradicts</b> the point your article is trying to make! </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Chrysostum is discussing 1 Cor 12:1-2, in his 'Homilies on First Corinthians':</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>"Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. Ye know that when ye were Gentiles, ye were led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might be led."</i> [Here he's quoting the Bible. Then he goes on to discuss the passage.] </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"></div><div style="color: black;"><i>This whole place is very obscure: but the obscurity is produced by our ignorance of the facts referred to <b>and by their cessation, being such as then used to occur but now no longer take place</b>. And why do they not happen now? Why look now, the cause too of the obscurity hath produced us again another question: namely, why did they then happen, and now do so no more?</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>This however let us defer to another time, but for the present let us state what things were occurring then. Well: what did happen then? Whoever was baptized he straightway spake with tongues and not with tongues only, but many also prophesied, and some also performed many other wonderful works. For since on their coming over from idols, without any clear knowledge or training in the ancient Scriptures, they at once on their baptism received the Spirit, yet the Spirit they saw not, for It is invisible; therefore God's grace bestowed some sensible proof of that energy.</i> - <a href="http://ccel.wheaton.edu/fathers2/NPNF1-12/npnf1-12-34.htm#P1424_844732">John Chrysostum, Homily XXIX</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So your article is using this quote to <b>support</b> present-day speaking in tongues by taking it right out of its context, whereas Chrysostum is actually saying that tongues have ceased; that they did happen, and now do so no more!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Augustine</b><i></i><i></i> </div><div style="color: black;">Again, there was no reference. I tried really hard to find this one. I even downloaded the complete writings of Augustine (more than 20MB of plain text) and searched through them for various words or combinations of words in the quote above, but I couldn't find it. Now I'm not saying that you guys have made it up. Maybe there's some writings that I missed. But compare the quote above with what I did find. This one comes from Augustine's <i>Ten Homilies on the First Epistle of John</i>:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>This is His commandment, That we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as He gave us commandment." "And he that doeth His commandment abideth in Him, and He in him. In this we know that He abideth in us, by the Spirit which He hath given us." If in truth thou find that thou hast charity, thou hast the Spirit of God in order to understand: for a very necessary thing it is. </i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>In the earliest times, "the Holy Ghost fell upon them that believed: and they spake with tongues," which they had not learned, "as the Spirit gave them utterance." <b>These were signs adapted to the time. For there behooved to be that betokening of the Holy Spirit in all tongues, to shew that the Gospel of God was to run through all tongues over the whole earth. That thing was done for a betokening, and it passed away.</b> In the laying on of hands now, that persons may receive the Holy Ghost, do we look that they should speak with tongues? Or when we laid the hand on these infants, did each one of you look to see whether they would speak With tongues, and, when he saw that they did not speak with tongues, was any of you so wrong-minded as to say, These have not received the Holy Ghost; for, had they received, they would speak with tongues as was the case in those times? If then the witness of the presence of the Holy Ghost be not now given through these miracles, by what is it given, by what does one get to know that he has received the Holy Ghost? Let him question his own heal?. If he love his brother the Spirit of God dwelleth in him. Let him see, let him prove himself before the eyes of God, let him see whether there he in him the love of peace and unity, the love of the Church that is spread over the whole earth.</i> <a href="http://ccel.wheaton.edu/fathers2/NPNF1-07/npnf1-07-137.htm#P4343_2352091">- Augustine, Homily VI.</a></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Note the way Augustine says "...was any of you so wrong-minded as to say, These have not received the Holy Ghost; for, had they received, they would speak with tongues as was the case in those times?". So again it seems that the real view of this great "father of the Latin Church" is totally opposite to what the article is suggesting! Of course, if you could reference the article's quote from Augustine, then that would be evidence that he had changed his views at some stage, and we could then determine which was his more mature opinion.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">But to illustrate further, in another work, Augustine discusses his view of tongues.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><a href="http://ccel.wheaton.edu/fathers2/NPNF1-07/npnf1-07-37.htm#P1467_919233">Lectures on the Gospel According to St John, Tractate XXXII: </a><br />
<i>How then, brethren, because he that is baptized in Christ, and believes on Him, does not speak now in the tongues of all nations, are we not to believe that he has received the Holy Ghost? <b>God forbid that our heart should be tempted by this faithlessness.</b> Certain we are that every man receives: but only as much as the vessel of faith that he shall bring to the fountain can contain, so much does He fill of it. Since, therefore, the Holy Ghost is even now received by men, some one may say, Why is it that no man speaks in the tongues of all nations? Because the Church itself now speaks in the tongues of all nations. Before, the Church was in one nation, where it spoke in the tongues of all. By speaking then in the tongues of all, it signified what was to come to pass; that by growing among the nations, it would speak in the tongues of all. Whoso is not in this Church, does not now receive the Holy Ghost. For, being cut off and divided from the unity of the members, which unity speaks in the tongues of all, let him declare for himself; he has it not. For if he has it, let him give the sign which was given then. What do we mean by saying, Let him give the sign which was then given? Let him speak in all tongues. He answers me: How then, dost thou speak in all tongues? Clearly I do; for every tongue is mine, namely, of the body of which I am a member. The Church, spread among the nations, speaks in all tongues; the Church is the body of Christ, in this body thou art a member: therefore, since thou art a member of that body which speaks with all tongues, believe that thou too speakest with all tongues. For the unity of the members is of one mind by charity; and that unity speaks as one man then spoke.</i> </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Luther</b><i></i></div><div style="color: black;">Well, this was a surprise too, as I had never before heard of Martin Luther being a Pentecostal, although I am aware that Luther could speak in a number of different languages. Perhaps this has been confused with an ability to "speak in tongues". I couldn't find anything substantiating the claim in any of Luther's works on-line, so I wrote to the author of <a href="http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/wittenberg-home.html/">Project Wittenburg;</a> a web site cataloguing Luther's works, to ask for help. He put me on to the Concordia Theological Seminary in the USA (a major Lutheran seminary). The librarian there gave me the following information, regarding the claim made in your article about Luther's tongue-speaking:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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<div style="color: black;"><i>I have not heard this claim before, but I believe it to be untrue. It is, of course, difficult to prove a negative, but here is my reasoning.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>The modern tongues-speaking movement is only a hundred years old, tracing its history back to 1901 in Topeka, Kansas. Before the modern Pentecostal movement of this century, there are only scattered reports of glossolalia (the technical term for speaking in tongues in the modern sense). Any reference by Luther to "speaking in tongues" must be considered against this historical background.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>Luther wrote no commentary on 1 Corinthians, so there is no direct reference to his interpretation of St. Paul here. Luther does, however, refer to 1 Cor. in his work "Against the Heavenly Prophets". I quote the following from "Luther's Works", American ed. (St. Louis: Concordia Pub. House, 1955-1986), v. 40, p. 142-143. The first paragraph picks up in the middle of an argument, so the connection with the preceding is not made, but the two paragraphs do show Luther's understanding of speaking in tongues:</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>[Luther:]"Also the fool doesn't understand St. Paul's words correctly when he writes of speaking with tongues (I Cor. 14 [:2-29]). For St. Paul writes of the office of preaching in the congregation, to which it is to listen an to learn from it, when he says: Whoever comes forward, and wants to read, teach, or preach, and yet speaks with tongues, that is, speaks Latin instead of German, or some unknown language, he is to be silent and preach to himself alone. For no one can hear it or understand it, and no one can get any benefit from it. Or if he should speak with tongues, he ought, in addition, put what he says into German, or interpret it in one way or another, so that the congregation may understand him. Thus St. Paul is not as stubborn in forbidding speaking with tongues as this sin-spirit is, but says it is not to be forbidden when along with it interpretation takes place.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><i>"Hence has come the custom in all lands, to read the gospel immediately before the sermon in Latin, which St. Paul calls speaking in tongues in the congregation. However, since the sermon comes soon thereafter and translates and interprets the tongue, St. Paul does not reject or forbid it. Why should I then, or anyone condemn it? Yes, would to God, that only this order of St. Paul were everywhere in effect so that after the Latin gospel nothing else was preached than its exposition."</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>This quotation would certainly underscore your point that Luther spoke other languages, and this is what he meant by speaking in tongues. For Mr. Souer to prove otherwise would take a solid quotation from Luther. Unfortunately, I cannot even prove the existence of any "History of the Christian Church" by any Souer. There appears to be a misspelling of the name, but even considering possible other spellings, this is certainly not one of the well-known and authoritative histories of the Christian Church.</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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<div style="color: black;">So without a solid reference in your article, it again appears that the information is wrong. In fact, regardless of whether Luther's interpretation is the right one, he would describe someone who holds to the Revival Centre's view on tongues as "the fool" who "doesn't understand St. Paul's words correctly". The way he is presented in your article is therefore somewhat ironic.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>The Quakers</b><br />
It is interesting to note that George Fox, under whose leadership "the Quakers experienced the reviving power of the Holy Spirit", as the article says, actually discouraged speaking in tongues (see his <a href="http://ccel.wheaton.edu/f/fox/autobiography/autobiography1.0.txt">autobiography</a>). However, I do not dispute the article's quotation here, as in spite of his disapproval, a number of his followers apparently went on to speak in tongues and evidence other charismatic phenomena.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Charles Finney</b><i></i> </div><div style="color: black;">The citation doesn't mention tongues, and to me infers only fervent prayer after Finney's powerful experience of the Holy Spirit. I came across an interesting quote in an article from Eastern Pentecostal Bible College called "Speaking in Other Tongues - Our Pentecostal Distinctive." The article reviews the history of Pentecostalism and in mentioning the role of Charles Finney, says: </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>Finney would stop short of the Pentecostal position of speaking in tongues but he did claim that the Holy Spirit allowed the believer in prayer to transcend the limits of human language. Basing his position on a literal interpretation of Romans 8:26, Finney wrote that,</i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>"the Spirit excites desires too great to be uttered except by groans. Something that language cannot utter - making the soul too full to utter its feelings by words, where the person can only groan them out to God who understands the language of the heart." </i>[The quote is referenced to "Charles Finney's Doctrine of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit" by John Graham.]</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So it seems that the article refers yet again to someone who holds the opposite position from what you are trying to prove!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">The other quotations I will not dispute...In conclusion then, it appears that your article fails to prove the assertion that there have been 2000 years of speaking in tongues. While I have yet to fully examine your church's doctrinal positions, the lack of scholarship presented in your article does not reassure me when it comes to trusting the Revival Centre's Biblical exegesis. I can only assume that any errors are not intentionally deceptive but have simply been trustingly copied from other sources. I hope that it is obvious that quotations need to be carefully referenced, especially in matters as important as Christian truth.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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They see flame throwing tanks in this passage? Are they having a lend of us? Can you guess why the author had to use the Moffatt Translation to make his point? Have a read of the passage in the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel%202&version=KJV">KJV</a> or the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel%202&version=NIV">NIV</a> and that will become clear. There is no mention of '<i>tracks</i>' in other translations because the word 'track' in Moffatt's version doesn't refer to a track as in something left behind but rather it means a '<i>path</i>' or '<i>direction</i>' (again, see how the other versions translate it).<br />
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<div style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">This is largely a rehash of a claim they made in 1959 and has been dealt with </span><a href="http://revivalprophecy.blogspot.com/2010/08/vor-1959-v01-n07-p07.html">here</a>.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Can you guess what I am going to say? Yes, this never happened!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><span style="color: black;">As a matter of history, the Catholic Church was very actively anti-Communist, especially Pope John-Paul II in his support of the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1989#Developments_in_the_1980s">Solidarity movement in Poland</a>. <br />
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<div style="color: black;">While it may be true that knowledge has increased exponentially in recent times, there is nothing in this verse that even hints at what we are seeing in today's world. It simply says that <i>'knowledge shall be increased'</i>. You don't need to be a prophet to know that knowledge <i>has, and always will</i>, increase with the march of time. </div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Even as a Revivalist I thought that it was bit of a stretch to think that '<i>many shall run to and fro</i>' was a prediction of '<i>present-day methods of travel</i>'. How anyone can see planes, trains and automobiles in this verse is simply beyond me. One could just as easily say this predicts the modern Olympic Games or is a prediction of the Boxing Day sales at Myer Department Store. After all, lots of <i>running to and fro</i> there right?.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;"><i>'The chariots shall rage in the streets'</i> is a prediction of the motor car? Did these guys really expect to be taken seriously? If one looks at these <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=nahum%202&version=NIV">verses in context </a>then it becomes clear that it is talking about <i>actual chariots</i> (yes, just like the ones in <i>Ben Hur</i>) shining and glistening in the sun as they race through the streets of ancient Ninevah (Israel's neighbour). These verses have nothing to do with cars, combustion engines or even modern times!</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Joel 2:30 is a favourite Revivalist verse even to this day. The greatest problem with the long-held Revivalist claim (that this describes nuclear mushroom clouds) is found in the first few words of the verse:</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: #741b47; text-align: left;"><i>And <b>I will shew</b> wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. </i></div><div style="color: black;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">Who will be responsible for these pillars of smoke? Soviet Russia? The USA? Israel?<br />
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Read the verse again. It says <b>God will show these wonders</b>, not humankind. So unless God has an arsenal of nuclear bombs tucked away somewhere, the Revivalists are wrong...yet again.</div><br />
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</tbody></table><span style="color: black;">The West and NATO </span><i style="color: black;"><b>never </b></i><span style="color: black;">lost West Berlin or West Germany. In fact, Communism began to lose its hold over East Germany when the Berlin Wall fell on the 9th of November, 1989. Communism was rejected completely when Germany was reunified as a Democratic, Capitalist nation on the 18th of March, 1990.</span><br />
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<div style="color: black;">Japan <i><b>never </b></i>turned Communist and is still to this day, very much Capitalist and America's strongest ally in Asia.</div><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">HUGE FAIL!</b></span></span>Why I Don't Believehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00023274729498444974noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-137863811043564915.post-65346674334323199972010-09-05T15:08:00.003+08:002010-09-06T08:11:14.318+08:00'Voice of Revival' 1960 v02 n05 p04<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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</div><div style="color: black;">Sorry Revivalists, but like all the other prophetic claims on this site, this never happened!</div><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">FAIL!</b></span></span><br />
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</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;">The Revival Centres were forever claiming the bible predicted the Soviet invasion of the Anglo-Saxon nations (<a href="http://revivalprophecy.blogspot.com/search/label/Soviets">see here for more</a>) but of course this never happened and with the demise of the Soviet Union never will. </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;">Longfield here also claimed that Lybia, Persia and Ethipoia would become allied with Soviet Russia. History shows this to be <a href="http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_were_the_Soviet_Union%27s_allies_in_the_cold_war">a false claim</a> as Ethiopia was the only one of these nations that allied itself with the Soviets.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;">As for the Russians coming right to our (Australia's) shores well, they didn't even make it to the UK let alone to Australia (<a href="http://revivalprophecy.blogspot.com/2010/09/voice-of-revival-1962-v04-n01-p04.html">see here</a>).</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;">Finally, there were many fruitful and lasting pacts and agreements made between the Soviets and Western nations, so the claim that all were <i>'doomed to failure'</i> is pure drivel.</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
</div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;"><span style="color: black;">Verdict: </span><b style="color: red;">FAIL!</b></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;"><b style="color: red;"> </b></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;"><b style="color: red;"> </b></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;"><b style="color: red;"> </b></span></span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Was Noel Hollins drunk when he wrote this? How anyone could see Nazism, Fascism and Communism in that verse is beyond me. To say that the three 'isms' pushed out propaganda and this likens them to 'croaking frogs' is a big stretch. But then to claim that Hitler and Mussolini's warmongering was 'miraculous' is even more of a stretch.<br />
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But where Noel really fails is when he says, </div><blockquote style="color: black;"><i>'The Bible prophecies that the third, Communism, will produce the climax of the age, Armageddon'.</i></blockquote><span style="color: black;">Like Noel, Communism has failed. It has lost its power and hold over all but one country (North Korea). The rest have abandoned it completely (former Soviet Bloc) or hold on to it in name only (China, Cuba and Vietnam). So sorry Noel, but Communism didn't, and will never, usher in Armageddon. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">FAIL!</b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: black;">It's hard to believe that Lloyd Longfield expected anyone to take this article seriously as the Revival Centres are a breakaway from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRC_Churches">CRC</a> which was a split from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblies_of_God_Australia">AoG</a>. The funniest thing is that not long after writing this article, Lloyd Longfield registered the Revival Centres as a denomination with the Australian government. </span><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">Hypocrisy!</b></span></span><br />
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<div style="color: black;">It is likely that the above piece is some kind of Christian urban legend. While I could not find the myth's origins, I did discover that,</div><blockquote><i style="color: black;">Since the 1940's most of the planetariums in the western world have presented a show on the Star of Bethlehem in what has become one of the newer Christmas customs. As the first Christmas shows are older than most planetariums (and most planetarians!) we have learned from each other and from those who went first and for the most part we all present shows that are quite similar and that have not changed dramatically in at least a generation.</i> (<a href="http://www.ips-planetarium.org/planetarian/articles/common_errors_xmas.html">source</a>) </blockquote><div style="color: black;">It seems that the Revival Centre article here has embellished the story somewhat and tried to change what was an intentionally designed Christmas show at a planetarium into some kind of accidental discovery proving the biblical birth narrative of Jesus.</div><div style="color: black;"><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;"><b>Further Reading:</b></div><a href="http://www.ips-planetarium.org/planetarian/articles/common_errors_xmas.html">Common Errors in "Star of Bethlehem" Planetarium Shows</a><br />
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<span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">CRAP!</b></span></span><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">Of this fictitious story, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism">Creationists</a> Tim LaHaye and John Morris wrote, </div><blockquote style="color: black;"><i>'Later testimony revealed that that account -- even the name Roskovitsky -- was 95% fiction, but other Russian soldiers have told of hearing of an expedition mounted in 1917 to discover Noah's Ark, based on something in a lake spotted from the air.' </i>(<a href="http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Russian_aviator_Roskovitsky_photographed_the_Ark">source</a>)</blockquote><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="font-family: Times,"Times New Roman",serif;">Verdict: <b style="color: red;">CRAP!</b></span></span><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">The UK and Commonwealth Nations are today less Christian than ever and yet the Soviets <b>never </b>attacked the 'Anglo-Saxon-Celtic nations'. In fact, due to immigration, there are a plethora of 'gentile' religions now practised in these countries. So much for national repentance repelling the Soviet advance. Of course the Soviet Union also no longer exists.</div><br />
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<div style="color: black;">To <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_israelism">British Israelists</a>, August 23, 1953 was a very important day. It was the day that was to at least begin the ushering in of Christ's return (if not his actual return). As one writer noted, <span style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica; font-size: x-small;"><span style="line-height: 200%;"><br />
</span></span></div><blockquote style="color: black; font-family: "Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_671882639"> </a></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="line-height: 200%;"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_israelism">Anglo-Israel's</a> outstanding <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramidology">Pyramid work</a> is a monumental tome, the size of a volume of the <i>Encyclopedia Britannica, </i>called <i>The Great Pyramid: Its Divine Message. </i>It was written by David Davidson, a structural engineer in </span><st1:place><st1:city><span style="line-height: 200%;">Leeds</span></st1:city><span style="line-height: 200%;">, </span><st1:country-region><span style="line-height: 200%;">England</span></st1:country-region></st1:place><span style="line-height: 200%;">, and first published in 1924. A revised eighth edition appeared in 1940. The book is based on Smyth, with important differences in the prophetic section. The "Final Tribulation" of the Anglo-Saxon peoples was to begin in 1928 and extend to 1936. From September 16, 1936 until August 20, 1953, the Anglo-Saxons—i.e., the "true" Israel—will be brought together and given divine protection against a coalition of world powers seeking to destroy them. This will be the Armageddon period, terminated by the return of Christ.</span></span><span style="font-size: small;"> </span><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="http://www.skeptically.org/skepticism/id15.html">(source)</a></span></blockquote><div style="color: black;">The Revival Centres adopted their beliefs in British-Israel and Pyrmidology from their beginnings in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRC_Churches_International">National Revival Crusade</a> (later known as the Commonwealth Revival Crusade). That the NRC held August 20, 1953 in high regard can be seen on the cover of their first publication of that year.</div><br />
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</div><div style="color: black;">There is no doubt that even Lloyd Longfield himself believed and publicly taught the significance of this date as shown below in a 1952 edition <i>The National Revivalist</i>:<br />
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Of course when this date came and went without any significant occurrence, British-Israelists, including the NRC, had to reinterpret it.</div><br />
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<div style="color: black;">So by the time we get to the Revival Centre article in question, 1953 had well and truly passed. We can see John Durrant's attempt to maintain the date as significant by claiming it was the <i>'End of the generation in which all will be fulfilled.'</i> It is clear from Durrant's language that he truly believed Christ's return was imminent. And yet, here we all are more than half a century on from 1953! While some older Revivalists might recall the days when they revered the date somewhat, modern Revivalists would have no knowledge of its significance at all as it is simply not mentioned any more.</div><div style="color: #20124d;"><br />
</div><div style="color: black;">So there is little doubt that the Revival Centres and even its founder have been involved with setting a date <i>relevant </i>to the return of Jesus Christ. Contrast this with the <a href="http://www.rci.org.au/faq/faq_prophetic.htm">Revival Centres International statement on date-setting</a> in which they claim they have never been party to this practice. While they might argue this date was never declared as <i>'the day of the Lord,'</i> it was certainly supposed to signify <i>the beginning of the end</i> and this certainly never came to pass.</div><br />
<b>Further Reading:</b><br />
<a href="http://www.skeptically.org/skepticism/id15.html">The Great Pyramid</a><br />
<a href="http://rci-trf.tripod.com/articles/pyramid.shtml">The Great Pyramid - or the Great Deception?</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_inch">The Pyramid Inch</a><br />
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</div><div class="" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;">Longfield's prediction of the eventual destruction of the Soviet Union is simply false. While the Soviets certainly lost control over Russia, the counter revolution was mostly peaceful and Russia was anything but destroyed. In fact, Russia is still one of the most powerful nations in the world today. Even if Russia were destroyed at some stage in the future, it no longer identifies with the hammer (or sickle) thus making the verse in Jeremiah irrelevant.<br />
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Longfield also claimed that god had brought the Soviets down on these nations 'as chastisement' for rejecting him. Of course we can now look at Longfield's claims with scorn as the former Eastern Bloc nations are just as irreligious as they once were and yet are now free Democratic nations. In fact, <a href="http://revivalprophecy.blogspot.com/2010/09/voice-of-revival-1963-v05-n01-p05.html">Poland's resistance against Communism</a> was influenced heavily by Pope John Paul II (himself Polish) and the Catholic Church, and any good Revivalist will tell you that they believe the Catholic Church is anything <i>but </i>an instrument of god.</div><div class="" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; color: black; text-align: left;"><br />
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